What do Auction Prices Represent?
/ Doug WinterFor better or worse, the current market has come to heavily rely on auction prices to determine the value of a wide range of coins. I am often asked: do auction prices represent wholesale or retail? A one word answer: both. The coin market is quite possibly the most transparent market there is in any hobby or collectible. PCGS, NGC, and Heritage provide comprehensive databases for nearly any major issue of United States coin, in a variety of grades. In theory, even an unknowledgeable collector now has access to records which only the most sophisticated dealers and collectors could access as recently as a decade ago.
But with millions of data points for United States coins comes a big, hot mess: what does this data mean? Without the ability to interpret this data, we are left with a range of numbers.
For very rare coins, which may have many years between auction appearances, it is easy to conclude that the most recent record (or APR) is a clear indication of value. As an example, I recently paid $42,300 for a PCGS MS64 example of an 1847-O eagle in the Legend 9/15 auction. This is a common date, but it is extremely rare in MS64 with exactly three known. The last time this date had appeared for sale was February 2009 when the same coin sold for $51,750. There is no clear-cut distinction about this being a “wholesale” or a “retail” value. The coin is worth at least $42,300, and it would have cost at least 5-10% more for a collector or a dealer to have purchased it from me.
But the exact same date albeit in a lower grade has less clear cut values based on auction appearances. Let’s take an 1847-O eagle in AU58; a coin that isn’t really “scarce” in the true sense of the word but one which isn’t readily available either.
In 2015, there were two 1847-O eagles in AU58 sold at auction. A nice, original NGC AU58 sold for $1,645 while a PCGS AU58 which was also above-average for the grade (but not CAC approved) sold for $2,056. Does this mean that the wholesale/retail value of this date is $1,645 to $2,056? In my opinion, it clearly does not.
For nearly every rare coin, there are now four distinct ranges of appearance and subsequent value:
- NGC, non-CAC
- PCGS, non-CAC
- NGC, CAC approved
- PCGS, CAC approved
In the case of the 1847-O, a very low-end NGC AU58 with no CAC sticker might have a wholesale value of considerably lower than the $1,645 auction record cited above; maybe as low as $1,300-1,400. And an extremely nice PCGS AU58 with a CAC sticker might be worth $2,500 or even $2,750 to a sophisticated collector; certainly far more than the $2,056 which a nice (but non-CAC) coin recently sold for.
So for even a relatively unsophisticated coin like an AU58 1847-O eagle, we have a potential range of value running from a low of $1,300 for a really poor example for the grade to a high of $2,750 for a crisp, eye appealing example. And this doesn’t even bring into play a clearly undergraded AU58 in an old holder which might bring $4,000 or even $5,000 if it appeared at auction.
To really determine the significance of an auction record, the collector or dealer has to do some detective work. If the finest known 1838-D Dahlonega half eagle in PCGS MS64 comes up for sale in the coming year (note: this coin doesn’t exist but is being used as a hypothetical) the chances are close to 100% that it is either being bought by a collector or by a dealer as an agent for a collector and the APR will reflect this. If a 1901-S eagle in PCGS MS65 CAC sells at auction, the chances are good that it is a wholesale transaction.
And this brings us to yet another fork in the road: in today’s market—with transparency and collectors doing their own thing without dealers—is there such thing as “wholesale” or “retail” anymore? Maybe we’re just better off stating that a range of values exist for every coin, and the low-end coins (like the $1,300 1847-O eagle) are what we traditionally refer to as “wholesale,” and the high-end coins (like the $2,750 1847-O eagle) are what used to be called “retail.”
Date…….1873 T$1
Grade…….PCGS MS66 CAC
PCGS Price Guide.…….……70000
CDN Greysheet/CPG.…..…55000
Population (PCGS).……….…5/1
Population (NGC)….…………1/0
Population (CAC).….....….…..1/1
Serial Number……7031.66/9896848
PCGS Lookup Number.……….7031
Date…….1882
Grade.…….PCGS PR66DCAM
PCGS Price Guide..……..…20500
Population (PCGS).…………4/1
Population (NGC).…….…….4/0
Serial Number……97632.66/25329521
PCGS Lookup Number.….97632
Date…….1903 LA Purchase, Jefferson
Grade…….PCGS PR67CAM
PCGS Price Guide.…….……42500
Population (PCGS).……….…2/0
Population (NGC)…..…..……0/1
Serial Number……87482.67/47742943
PCGS Lookup Number.…….87482
Date…….1842
Grade…….PCGS AU58
PCGS Price Guide.…….……25000
Population (PCGS).……….….…3/3
Population (NGC).……...…….…4/1
Serial Number……7723.58/46198714
PCGS Lookup Number.…….7723
Date…….1843
Grade…….PCGS MS62
PCGS Price Guide.…….……6250
Population (PCGS).……….…13/5
Population (NGC)….…………8/5
Serial Number……7727.62/56970830
PCGS Lookup Number.…...7727
Date…….1880
Grade…….PCGS MS65
PCGS Price Guide.…….……23500
Population (PCGS).………….…7/1
Population (NGC)….……..……3/1
Serial Number……7832.65/58900888
PCGS Lookup Number…….7832
Date…….1856-S
Grade……PCGS MS63
PCGS Price Guide.….….……70000
Population (PCGS)……………5/3
Population (NGC)….….………7/1
Serial Number……….7975.63/59896861
PCGS Lookup Number…….7975
Date…….1806 Round Top 6
Grade…….PCGS MS63 CAC
PCGS Price Guide.…….……42500
CDN Greysheet/CPG.…..…39500
Population (PCGS).……….…72/53
Population (NGC)….…………30/19
Population (CAC).….....….….18/20
Serial Number……8089.63/21041114
PCGS Lookup Number.……….8089
Date…….1807 Capped Bust Left
Grade…….CACG MS61
PCGS Price Guide.…….…..…18500
CDN Greysheet/CPG.…….…17500
Population (PCGS).……….…26/138
Population (NGC)….…..………39/91
Population (CAC).…..……….….8/28
Serial Number……8809.61/109572726 1
PCGS Lookup Number.……….8101
Date…….1813
Grade…….PCGS MS62+ CAC
PCGS Price Guide.……………32500 (in +)
CDN Greysheet/CPG.…….…26000
Population (PCGS)..….…….…59/124 (3 in +)
Population (NGC)..……….……62/62 (3 in +)
Population (CAC)….….....….….16/38
Serial Number……8113.62+/53740328
PCGS Lookup Number………..8113
Date…….1845-D
Grade…….NGC AU55 CAC
PCGS Price Guide.…….……8520
CDN Greysheet/CPG.…..…8500
Population (PCGS).….….…..38/60
Population (NGC)…...…..…69/102
Population (CAC).…..….….…..9/12
Serial Number……2527890-002
PCGS Lookup Number…….8224
Date…….1876-CC
Grade……PCGS AU58
PCGS Price Guide.….….……85000
Population (PCGS)……………9/2
Population (NGC)….….………10/3
Serial Number……….8340.58/61814607
PCGS Lookup Number…….8340
Date…….1909
Grade…….PCGS MS65
PCGS Price Guide.…….……..12000
Population (PCGS).………..…140/16
Population (NGC)….………...…65/8
Serial Number……8513.65/53728711
PCGS Lookup Number.….….8513
Date…….1912
Grade…….PCGS MS65
PCGS Price Guide.…….……12000
Population (PCGS).……….…85/1
Population (NGC)….…………53/3
Serial Number……8523.65/54763749
PCGS Lookup Number…….8523
Date…….1847-O
Grade…….PCGS MS63
PCGS Price Guide.…….……45000
Population (PCGS).……….…3/3
Population (NGC)….…………1/0
Serial Number……8598.63/25292932
PCGS Lookup Number.……….8598
Date…….1858-S
Grade…….PCGS VG10 CAC
PCGS Price Guide.…….……3000
CDN Greysheet/CPG.…..…3400
Population (PCGS).……….…3/56
Population (NGC).……...……0/48
Population (CAC).….....….….2/5
Serial Number……8627.10/27770084
PCGS Lookup Number.……….8627
Date…….1861-S
Grade…….PCGS AU55
PCGS Price Guide.……………21000
Population (PCGS)..………..….13/11
Population (NGC)…..….………24/14
Serial Number……8634.55/41257703
PCGS Lookup Number.……..8634
Date…….1865-S
Grade…….PCGS EF45
PCGS Price Guide.…….……30000
Population (PCGS).……….…6/11
Population (NGC)….…………2/17
Serial Number……8642.45/46565979
PCGS Lookup Number.……….8642
Date…….1869-S
Grade…….PCGS AU58 CAC
PCGS Price Guide.…….……23500
CDN Greysheet/CPG.…..…21500
Population (PCGS).……….…8/3
Population (NGC).……...……5/1
Population (CAC).….....….….3/1
Serial Number……8656.58/55801166
PCGS Lookup Number.……….8656
Date…….1870 Pattern J-1036
Grade…….PCGS/CAC PR65CAM
PCGS Price Guide.……….…22500
Population (PCGS).……….…1/1
Population (NGC)…..……..…N/A
Serial Number……61285.65/27265843
PCGS Lookup Number.…….61285
Date…….1875
Grade…….PCGS VF30
PCGS Price Guide.…….……275000
Population (PCGS).……….…1/9
Population (NGC)….…………1/6
Serial Number……8672.30/5363532
PCGS Lookup Number.……….8672
Date…….1902
Grade…….PCGS PR63 CAC
PCGS Price Guide.…….……25000
CDN Greysheet/CPG.…..…19500
Population (PCGS).….….…....4/30
Population (NGC)…...…...……3/19
Population (CAC).…....………..1/10
Serial Number……8842.63/28257881
PCGS Lookup Number.……….8842
Date…….1854 Large Date
Grade…….PCGS AU58 CAC
PCGS Price Guide.…………22500
CDN Greysheet/CPG.…..…13200
Population (PCGS).…….…..26/10
Population (NGC)..………….33/10
Population (CAC).…...…….....14/8
Serial Number……98911.58/38454770
PCGS Lookup Number.…….98911
Date…….1859
Grade…….PCGS AU55
PCGS Price Guide.…….……15500
Population (PCGS).…..….….25/28
Population (NGC).……...……34/32
Serial Number……8656.58/55801166
PCGS Lookup Number.……….8656
Date…….1868
Grade…….PCGS MS62
PCGS Price Guide.…….……47500
Population (PCGS).…………..…7/1
Population (NGC)….……………3/0
Serial Number……8953.62/55496444
PCGS Lookup Number….….8953
Date…….1871-CC
Grade…….PCGS AU55
PCGS Price Guide.………127500
Population (PCGS).………15/3
Population (NGC)…..….…36/23
Serial Number……8961.55/58337779
PCGS Lookup Number.……...8961
Date…….1872-CC
Grade…….PCGS AU58
PCGS Price Guide.…….…57500
Population (PCGS).……….26/8
Population (NGC)….………61/15
Serial Number……8964.58/55337386
PCGS Lookup Number.……8964
Date…….1873-CC
Grade…….PCGS AU55
PCGS Price Guide.……………25000
Population (PCGS).…..….….…53/99
Population (NGC)….……..……88/118
Serial Number……8968.55/66358475
PCGS Lookup Number.…….8968
Date…….1924-S
Grade…….PCGS MS64+ CAC
PCGS Price Guide.…….……42500 (in +)
Population (PCGS).……….…164/9 (34 in +)
Population (NGC)….…………128/21 (4 in +)
Serial Number……9179.64+/58601806
PCGS Lookup Number.……….9179

Date…….1849-O
Grade…….PCGS MS63 CAC
PCGS Price Guide.…….……35000
CDN Greysheet/CPG.…..…37500
Population (PCGS).……….….3/0
Population (NGC)……...………1/1
Population (CAC).….....….…..2/0
Serial Number……5414.63/61207008
PCGS Lookup Number.……….5414