I Bought a Modern Coin...and I Liked it.

Those of you who know my numismatic taste knows that it tends to run to coins dated 1890 and earlier, and coins which are truly rare. I have mostly avoided the modern coin market for a variety of reasons but one stands out: I generally don’t like the designs of modern coins (exceptions: the High Relief St. Gaudens and Buffalo revivals), and the thought of collecting them doesn’t personally appeal to me.

Confession time:

I participated in the recent offering of 2014 Baseball Hall of Fame commemorative issues, and did so in the most mercenary way: I bought them, paid extra for NGC and PCGS gimmick labels (early release or something of this ilk) and flopped them as fast as I could get my greedy little hands on them.

When I arrived at the recent Baltimore coin show, I had just barely heard that the new Hall of Fame coins were going to be released in limited quantities. Being a lifetime baseball fan, these coins appealed to me from a historic perspective. Being an art aficionado, the revolutionary new designs of these coins appealed to me as well.

Baseball Half of Fame Commemorative

I didn’t really have time to formulate a game plan, but I knew these coins were going to be winners. I also knew that there would be a decent opportunity to buy them and flip them for a decent profit. I quickly realized that given the limits of how many coins I could buy, and the fact that this would take away from my main reason for being at the show (buying and selling rare 18th and 19th US gold coins), my participation in the Great Baltimore Baseball Coin Flip was going to be modest at best. Still, for Mr. Rare Coin Snob, any sort of participation in the modern market seemed like a blog topic at the very least.

To make a long story short, my wife (who was with me at the show) got on line around 10am, somehow was third in line, and waited until 10:58am when she texted me that the line was starting to move, and to get over to the Mint booth ASAP.

We each bought our full allotment, and quickly ran the coins over to be graded. On the way there, a friend suggested that I split the coins in half to “hedge” my grading. This seemed like a pretty clever idea so while I submitted them to NGC, my wife walked them over to PCGS. A day and a half later we had them back, all in MS/PR69 and 70 holders, and looking pretty spiffy if I may say so.

Since I promised my wife the full profits from this deal as she was the one who patiently waited in line (her impatient husband doesn’t “do” lines very well…) I then asked her how she wanted to sell the coins. I gave her a few options: we could flip them immediately and make a pretty decent profit, we could hold them for a few weeks or months and see how the market for these coins played out, or we could sell them on E-Bay. She chose her own option: she decided to consign them to Great Collections where, even as we speak, they are being offered for sale.

A few quick observations about my foray into moderns:

 1. The U.S. Mint could turn me into a Libertarian.

I don’t often deal with the mint so I didn’t realize I was dealing with such a low-tech operation. When it was time for our orders to be filled, they were both done incorrectly and done without barcodes and scanners. I heard that the fulfillment issues grew worse as the line grew longer.

Some other news that might make me embrace Ron Paul: the Mint ran out of gold coins a few hours into the sale and had no contingency plans to bring more coins in; even though they could have sold hundreds if not thousands. The Mint had no idea that they were going to be so successful, and didn’t even bring stanchions for the long lines which even a Modern Coin Newbie like me knew would inevitably form. The Mint personnel at the show seemed nice and they seemed overwhelmed. Perhaps a little marketing meeting before the sale might have helped…

2. I LOVED the design of the coins.

I had vaguely followed the story about the Baseball HOF coins in the numismatic press and from the printed/online images they looked OK. In person, they were far better. The concave/convex design is unique in American numismatics and it is an impressive feat from a technological standpoint. The design was “different” without being hokey and as a collector, this is a modern coin I might actually want to own. I liked the gold coins the best and I liked them as Proofs better than I did as business strikes.

 3. Modern coins are a PITA

One of the reasons I don’t deal in modern coins is that they are extremely labor intensive. As an example, when I got them graded, I had to remove all the coins from the original packaging; taking care not to destroy the packaging or discarding the COA’s. Yes, I know this sounds very wimpy, but it was time consuming and really kind of a pain. The whole key to buying and selling modern coins is a mastery of logistics. I’m a pretty good coin dealer, but I am crappy at logistics, hence my decision to stick with what I know best.

4. The Mint hit a home run with the Baseball HOF coin.

I couldn’t write a blog about baseball with using this cliché. Just couldn’t. Sorry.

 

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Modern Coin Epiphany

I’ve recently had a bit of an epiphany regarding modern coins. For someone who has traditionally snickered at Walking Liberty half dollars and Mercury Dimes because they were “too new” this isn’t totally unlike the President of Coke admitting that a Pepsi tastes pretty good with a Cheeseburger. Now don’t get to thinking that I really “like” modern coins because I don’t. But the more I look at people collecting moderns, the more I can appreciate the coins and respect the collectors.

I hear “old school” dealers registering the same complaints about modern coins: they are ugly…they are overpriced…they are unsophisticated…the market favors sellers. Let’s look at these points.

Looks: While I personally have a hard time getting excited about the design of a $50 Platinum eagle or a modern commemorative half dollar, I can understand that some people like they way they look. Hey, I love Abstract Expressionist art and a lot of people think it looks like squiggles on a canvas that a cranky three year old drew before his afternoon nap. And, to be honest about it, is a Chain Cent or a Capped Bust Right half dollar a really “beautiful” coin from an aesthetic point of view?

Prices: I think modern coins in super-grades are marginal deals but, you know what, so are many classic issues. If someone told me that they were spending $35,000 on a common date Barber Quarter in Proof-69, I’d suggest that they might be better off spending $5,000 on the same issue in PR67. I feel the same way about modern coins. A modern commemorative half eagle in MS70 at $5,000 is questionable value. The same coin in MS68 at $500 seems like a nice addition to someone’s collection.

Sophistication: From my perspective, I think a Bust Half dollar in AU at $500 is a more interesting, sophisticated coin than a Statue of Liberty $5 commemorative. But this is just my opinion. As “sophisticated” as I think my own tastes are, there are plenty of collectors who would look down their noses at me and my “silly southern gold coins” because they are not as worldly as their Roman Imperial coinage. Until the 1970’s, most Morgan dollar collectors were considered numis-morons and today these collectors are now in the upper echelon of collectordom.

Unfair Market: The modern coin market is a developing entity and it will take time for two-way markets to develop. At this point, EBay and Teletrade must be considered the largest modern coins dealers. No, they don’t offer the warm and fuzzy customer service that Douglas Winter Numismatics does, but most collectors of modern coinage don’t want this “frill.”

I can see modern coinage becoming a more and more viable part of the numismatic marketplace in the coming years. People will start researching these series and serious books will be written. In the meantime, why don’t we “classic coin lovers” and their “modern coin” counterparts just try to get along?