Economic Impact on Numismatics

Coin dealers are lousy economists so I don’t want to waste your time discussing the economic background of the last few days. What I would like to share with you is my take on how it’s impacted my business and what I see are the short term effects of the credit crunch, liquidity crisis, Dow meltdown, etc. on the coin business. My business was screamingly active in July and August. It slowed down considerably in September and it has been extremely slow in October. I have read on a few dealers’ websites that they are still selling lots of rare coins and that they have people calling from out of the blue purchasing items from their inventory. I think this is a crock. Unless you are a dealer selling bullion right now, you probably (there are exceptions...) are not doing much coin business. You might be purchasing coins from clients who bought them a year or two ago but selling your existing inventory right now? I doubt it.

That’s not to say that the coin business has shut down entirely. It definitely has not. I’ve sold some nice collector grade coins in the past week and my wholesale business is actually a bit better than I would have expected. But my regular clients are taking a wait and see attitude towards the coin market, as am I. With the Dow dropping hundreds of points every day, it’s hard to be excited about the coin market right now.

As recently as a few weeks ago, I commented that the generic gold market was very weak and that premiums for $20 Libs and Saints were as low as at any time I could remember. You literally could not give away double eagles. Three weeks later and the world of generics is a very, very different place. As I write this, gold has a spot price of around $863 but Brilliant Uncirculated (MS60 to MS61) double eagles are worth between $1250 and $1300 each.

I actually recommended in one my recent blogs that it might be a good idea to stock up on gold as the premiums got so low and, for once (!) I was right. I think the moral of the story is that it’s a good idea to have a small position in double eagles for your personal protection and to move in and out of as premiums ebb and flow. My guess is that the premiums will stay very high for a while.

Here are some more thoughts and suggestions for rare coin collectors in these uncertain economic times:

1. If you are looking to time the market perfectly and sell at the height, you are probably too late. It looks like the peak for certain series may have been the spring of 2008. While I think it’s safe to say that faux rarities, widgets and low end “stuff” have seen their best days, I don’t necessarily think that the good times are over for really neat coins or really popular coins or coins that seemed undervalued as recently as thirty days ago.

2. If you were smart enough to buy double eagles at last month’s low premium, pat yourself on the back and start selling into the market. Yes, there is a good chance that gold will continue its upward climb but once the panic buyers have established their positions I would think that the currently high premiums will erode. I would certainly keep some of your position but I would strongly consider selling some of what you have at a nice profit and to maybe even considering putting the profit into rare coins.

3. Clearly, there will be new price levels soon for many series. If you collect early gold or Type Two double eagles or even modern Proof gold, the chances are pretty good that what you were buying on September 14 probably isn’t worth what it is on October 7th. No one—not even a connected expert like myself—is exactly certain what the new levels will be. Part of this depends on the willingness of dealers to sell coins for losses. I expect that the smart dealers out there will take the losses that make sense to them while the not-so-smart dealers will be stubborn and refuse, at least for now, to sell anything for a loss. I would think we’ll really start seeing what the new levels are at the 2009 FUN show and at the auctions surrounding this convention.

4. Whatever you do, don’t be a panic seller. Hopefully you bought coins with discretionary income and you made the decision to be a long-term collector who would stick with their coins through thick and thin. The last year or two was a good time to prune your collection and to get rid of mistakes, duplicates, widgets, etc. Hopefully you listened to my advice and did this. Hopefully you’ll also listen to me when I tell you that selling anything now that isn’t totally top quality might not be the best idea.

5. The “wild card” effect of the current economic chaos is that we may see a dramatic upward movement in gold, a wild run away from anything resembling stocks or bonds and even the return of rampant inflation. Any of these factors would have a significant impact on the rare coin market.

6. If prices do begin to drop and you have the assets available to allocate on coins, it might be a great time to buy. I heard lots of collectors complain that they’ve been priced out of their end of the market in the last few years by Nouveau Riche Accumulators. What if the majority of these NRA’s go away and you can suddenly afford to collect nice coins again?

How Does the Increase in the Price of Gold Affect the U.S. Rare Coin Market?

As I write this, gold has hit a high not seen since 1979-1980 and it is flirting with the $750 mark. How is this run-up in prices affecting the United States rare gold coin market? If you have a position in generic issues (such as St. Gaudens double eagles) you’ve made yourself a nice chunk of change these last few weeks. MS64’s have risen from the mid to high $700’s up to the mid $900’s and MS65’s have seen an increase of around $250 per coin as well.

But if you are a reader of my raregoldcoins.com blogs chances are good that you do not play the generics market. You own “real” coins; issues like New Orleans double eagles or Charlotte gold dollars or Carson City half eagles. How are these rarer issues being affected by the new record levels in the gold market?

In a word (or three) they really haven’t. One of the fallacies of a rising gold market is that anything that is yellow rises in prices when the market shoots up. This simply is not the case. An EF45 1853-D half eagle will rise in price as the result of increased demand, not because its intrinsic worth is now an additional $25-50. Most of the brand new buyers of physical gold (as least for now) are strictly investors and they do not even know what an 1853-D half eagle is.

New gold buyers generally follow a predictable progression. They begin by purchasing gold stocks or, perhaps, modern bullion coins like American Eagles or Krugerrands. For every 1,000 buyers, perhaps 5% graduate to generic issues such as Saints or Indian Head eagles. And of these buyers, a small number may, after some time, become aware of a coin such as the aforementioned 1853-D half eagle. But this is a lengthy process and today’s new buyers of gold may not get involved in numismatics for years, if ever.

So this is, in my opinion, why the current run-up in gold prices impact on the typical coin in my inventory is wishful thinking. I’d love to report that the phone is ringing off the hook with new investors screaming for Dahlonega half eagles but this is just not the case (not to mention that if anyone does call me regarding coins as an investment, my blunt answers tend to send them running for the hills…)

One thing that is a real positive about the run up in gold prices is that this clearly does focus a lot of fresh attention on gold and on gold coins. And any good publicity about gold coins can’t be bad, right?

I’ve had many people in the last few days ask me what my take is on gold in the short and long term. I don’t claim to have any profound insights in this area. I’m probably the world’s leading expert on branch mint gold coins but when it comes to geo-political thought and macroeconomics I’m just another Hack with a Keyboard. My opinion (for what’s its worth) is that as long as we have cheapened the dollar to its currently absurdly low levels, gold will become more and more of a hedge. I could easily see it go to $800-900 in the coming months. I’ll personally be selling into the market once it reaches these levels but I think the days of sub-$500 to $600 gold are long gone; probably for good. I would suggest that everyone own some gold as it seems like a safe place to put your paper dollars right now, especially given the alternatives.

Modern Coin Epiphany

I’ve recently had a bit of an epiphany regarding modern coins. For someone who has traditionally snickered at Walking Liberty half dollars and Mercury Dimes because they were “too new” this isn’t totally unlike the President of Coke admitting that a Pepsi tastes pretty good with a Cheeseburger. Now don’t get to thinking that I really “like” modern coins because I don’t. But the more I look at people collecting moderns, the more I can appreciate the coins and respect the collectors.

I hear “old school” dealers registering the same complaints about modern coins: they are ugly…they are overpriced…they are unsophisticated…the market favors sellers. Let’s look at these points.

Looks: While I personally have a hard time getting excited about the design of a $50 Platinum eagle or a modern commemorative half dollar, I can understand that some people like they way they look. Hey, I love Abstract Expressionist art and a lot of people think it looks like squiggles on a canvas that a cranky three year old drew before his afternoon nap. And, to be honest about it, is a Chain Cent or a Capped Bust Right half dollar a really “beautiful” coin from an aesthetic point of view?

Prices: I think modern coins in super-grades are marginal deals but, you know what, so are many classic issues. If someone told me that they were spending $35,000 on a common date Barber Quarter in Proof-69, I’d suggest that they might be better off spending $5,000 on the same issue in PR67. I feel the same way about modern coins. A modern commemorative half eagle in MS70 at $5,000 is questionable value. The same coin in MS68 at $500 seems like a nice addition to someone’s collection.

Sophistication: From my perspective, I think a Bust Half dollar in AU at $500 is a more interesting, sophisticated coin than a Statue of Liberty $5 commemorative. But this is just my opinion. As “sophisticated” as I think my own tastes are, there are plenty of collectors who would look down their noses at me and my “silly southern gold coins” because they are not as worldly as their Roman Imperial coinage. Until the 1970’s, most Morgan dollar collectors were considered numis-morons and today these collectors are now in the upper echelon of collectordom.

Unfair Market: The modern coin market is a developing entity and it will take time for two-way markets to develop. At this point, EBay and Teletrade must be considered the largest modern coins dealers. No, they don’t offer the warm and fuzzy customer service that Douglas Winter Numismatics does, but most collectors of modern coinage don’t want this “frill.”

I can see modern coinage becoming a more and more viable part of the numismatic marketplace in the coming years. People will start researching these series and serious books will be written. In the meantime, why don’t we “classic coin lovers” and their “modern coin” counterparts just try to get along?